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2. Re your points 1,2,3;
2.1 NSW community groups eg RAID could hold workshops and develop a model.
2.2 Each group then lobbies their respective candidates for the State election in 2011
2.3 Call for the State referendum @ State 2011 elections.
2.4 Preceding allows eighteen months for drafting of legislation for 2012.
3. Ban the ‘pollies” – love it!
3.1 What do you think of empowering & electing in the Precincts in legislation rather than one or two ward councillors?
3.2 If not the precincts how about the neighbourhood forums but as entities independent of council but interacting = community democracy.
3.3 Clearly either way the empowering will require funding.
3.4 Your point 4 = spot on – the discipline is essential as a anti corruption measure.
4. Precinct committees: This is the first time I have seen this model – so I will come back to it at a later date.
5. Planning Acts: The State Liberal party have given publicly a ‘pledge’ to remove Part 3A, but your point is valid.
6 One point that you may be patient with me on: At this juncture I do not see a significant structural difference between neighbourhoods & precincts. But that is due to my ignorance rather than any such reality.
Bruce reply:
1. Good idea for community groups to hold workshops; develop some new policies to set the discussional agenda for the State election; quiz candidates and get firm commitments (in writing if possible) from candidates (with timetables) before they are elected
2. Not so sure about state referendum by 2011 – needs a longer time for community consideration – hence suggested referendum in Sept 2012 with the NSW local government elections. But if there was a widespread movement for community democracy in NSW councils, it might be possible to do things quicker. Would need a lot of work from a lot of people to make it happen.
3. The model I prefer has two levels – elected Councillors who operate (with a more realistic workload than at the moment) supported by the Precinct Committees (who can do a lot of the finer tuned community work), No Councillor, in my opinion, can read and digest all the matters piled on them by the present process. We need to make far better use of the resources of our local communities to assist them in addressing the real issues which come before them.
4. I think there is also a need for informal neighbourhood forums – not run as meetings – where local people can come together, as adults, over a drink of some kind, and discuss local community affairs. Such forums should be informal to allow the other part of the brain a fair go – getting away from the control trips of those who get their way by using meeting procedures.
5. Precinct model is based, roughly, on Community Boards as used at the community level with some New Zealand/Aotearoa councils. Main feature is that they have elected members (from the local community area for the Precinct) to avoid such groups being hijacked by special interest groups, and have to be open and accountable. Candidates have to declare any conflict of interest when standing and when voting. More discussion required.
6. Irrespective of which party is elected in 2011, and whether or not 3A goes or stays, the reform required is that local community people – who have, generally speaking, been part of the process which built up our communities – must have a real say in any new developments proposed in our communities.
7. Neighbourhoods and Precincts – I see a Precinct as a much larger area, such as a Ward, rather than a neighbourhood, I can stroll around my neighbourhood – I can’t do that in my Ward, which extends from Helensburgh to Bulli./Woonona. So a formal Precinct Committee could cover the whole Ward, while an informal Neighbourhood forum could be something I could walk to and back if the weather was ok.
Cheers
Bruce